tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post6058394543186609331..comments2024-02-25T16:56:47.627-05:00Comments on Magdalene's Egg: Our Grandfather's ChurchFather Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-26446010704612742242010-09-07T15:15:52.727-04:002010-09-07T15:15:52.727-04:00What do you know? I had no idea they'd alread...What do you know? I had no idea they'd already changed it, but there's the amended version on the ELCA website. (I've been out of the country since just after the assembly, and probably missed some mailings).<br /><br />Well, I'll leave the quaint phrase, which has by now acquired a kind of kitsch appeal.Father Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-89795331598677969152010-09-07T14:47:23.143-04:002010-09-07T14:47:23.143-04:00Father,
I agree with Anonymous above. (Relative o...Father,<br /><br />I agree with Anonymous above. (Relative of yours?) Highly intructive. <br /><br />Just one itsy bitsy nit: the ELCA document called Vision and Expectations no longer uses that odd phrase "homosexual in their self-understanding." The document does not say it, although it did say it previous to that long ago event which historians call "the 2009 ELCA Chuchwide Assembly."Tim Fishernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-67902261994168129712010-09-07T10:59:26.593-04:002010-09-07T10:59:26.593-04:00I found this hugely instructive. Thanks. webI found this hugely instructive. Thanks. webAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-81424795418538242642010-09-07T05:20:40.856-04:002010-09-07T05:20:40.856-04:00More of the same -- here's Langer on Cassirer:...More of the same -- here's Langer on Cassirer:<br /><br />"Myth never breaks out of the magic circle of its figurative ideas. It reaches religious and poetic heights; but the gulf between its conceptions and those of science never narrows the least bit."<br /><br />Now, such a "myth" can be a very fine thing. But do note the "gulf" between the world created by mythic symbols and that created by scientific ones. My concern, when it comes to the discussion of "mainline decline," is that for decades we have been treated to a kind of mythopoesis which is independent of quantitative analysis -- poetry without prose, if you like (although that's unfair to Cassirer's idea of "language" as a mediating form of symbolic expression).Father Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-44074840629732146732010-09-07T04:13:45.530-04:002010-09-07T04:13:45.530-04:00Actually, in that case I was deliberately using my...Actually, in that case I was deliberately using myth in a more technical sense, as the symbol-system with which human beings construct their culture. When false and even destructive mythology takes hold, it undermines society -- pretty much what Cassirer was getting at in "The Myth of the State." (Which is not to compare forty years of church leadership to the Nazis, except in one very narrow way.)<br /><br />And if we're going to pick nits -- "reference" as a verb?Father Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-32480474047842913982010-09-06T20:11:40.612-04:002010-09-06T20:11:40.612-04:00"The strategy failed, and yet remains a part ..."The strategy failed, and yet remains a part of the treasured mythology of dying churches."<br />There you go with your mythuse again - AND in an essay that references Susan (sic) Langer!markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11644908598349358844noreply@blogger.com