tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post5482843097287110321..comments2024-02-25T16:56:47.627-05:00Comments on Magdalene's Egg: Keeping the Tent BigFather Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-61152027659239732062012-02-21T11:13:48.759-05:002012-02-21T11:13:48.759-05:00I find it difficult to judge whether the synod did...I find it difficult to judge whether the synod did a bad thing or not. Not all offers of hospitality are necessarily what they seem on the surface. However, just going with the info the good Father A. provides, I find myself in substantial agreement--we need to take what opportunities we have to reconcile whatever enmities may exist.Tim Fishernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-2510925242846476732012-02-21T06:06:19.432-05:002012-02-21T06:06:19.432-05:00I don't think anything needs editing, as long ...I don't think anything needs editing, as long as we speak in very general terms here. <br /><br />I share your haberdashery concerns (to put it mildly; I have a whole rant on that subject, which I'll sneak into some other context).<br /><br />As for ownership of the thing itself, well, I always saw it as a gift -- which one party owns until it is given to the other. But of course the synod is free to do whatever it wants, which includes going out to Macy's and buying its own stuff.<br /><br />My bigger concern is that this is a missed opportunity for the [perceived] "winners" to be deliberate about respecting and honoring the people who feel as though they have lost. And any one case may have its own circumstances -- but a church that isn't ready to be gracious is a church which doesn't value its own unity.Father Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-88487940594935074712012-02-21T02:17:52.512-05:002012-02-21T02:17:52.512-05:00Let me say first, I have no greater insight as to ...Let me say first, I have no greater insight as to why the hospitality you write about has been declined (and I'm assuming that I know the matter about which you speak). It is a good thing to offer hospitality to one's synod, and that should be, and has been appreciated. That said, my guess is that it has been unclear whether this was a parish event to which the synod was invited, or a synodical event hosted by a local congregation. To this observer it seems that it may be that as a synodical service, said synodfolk wanted greater freedom to shape and conduct the event than was afforded by the hosting congregation. That's a guess on my part. <br />For my own $.02, I was generally made un-comfortable by a certain style of ecclesial haberdashery being worn in the presence of and perhaps competing with that of the bishop, while also breaking a kind of solidarity with the rest of the ministerium.<br />--Edit as necessary for sensitivity purposes...or don't post and reply directly.James of the Tonsurenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-26288363558601008532012-02-20T00:10:10.142-05:002012-02-20T00:10:10.142-05:00Thanks for the clarification, Father A. The synod...Thanks for the clarification, Father A. The synods refusal to accept the congregation's hospitality is troubling and disturbing.Mark C. Christiansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02819932966315054909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-81170665460168829582012-02-19T03:05:24.167-05:002012-02-19T03:05:24.167-05:00@ Anonymous: your comment makes no sense. We car...@ Anonymous: your comment makes no sense. We care because we're connected to each other, just like members of any family; size isn't the question here, just relationship. <br /><br />The real question is why YOU care enough to troll this site so consistently; my guess is that you're an ex-Lutheran filled with some sort of unresolved rage against Mommy and Daddy. My strong suggestion is that you work it out in therapy, since I'm not going to provide you with a forum any longer.Father Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-57270586238683511892012-02-19T02:29:27.887-05:002012-02-19T02:29:27.887-05:00Okay, I changed it to something less coy. I was t...Okay, I changed it to something less coy. I was trying to keep the details extra-vague to avoid hurting any feelings. It's a delicate situation.Father Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170260624474428623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-7069924800052504522012-02-18T20:37:39.625-05:002012-02-18T20:37:39.625-05:00Why do you think this is so important to begin wit...Why do you think this is so important to begin with? You and Missouri are both shrinking away rapidly. Who cares?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-62580993605530365412012-02-18T18:15:33.418-05:002012-02-18T18:15:33.418-05:00I'm a little confused by the language of "...I'm a little confused by the language of "liturgical gift" as well. I thought I understood its first instance, which seemed to suggest that the congregation offered a particular worship style that was unique or very well done. But I'm not sure how a synod rejects this. So I'm confused by what you mean by "liturgical gift" and how a synod rejects it.Mark C. Christiansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02819932966315054909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15178007.post-84776540567101091152012-02-18T17:38:34.689-05:002012-02-18T17:38:34.689-05:00How do you give and receive a "liturgical gif...How do you give and receive a "liturgical gift"? Can I request liturgical gifts for my birthday?Pastor Joellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14212838423929588352noreply@blogger.com